OMG! This is like so totally brilliant!

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I think I'm too old to get that. But I like it. Very Warholian.
=\ It's like.. a squid. I think. Just a funny face from a chatroom I used to go to on AOL

I think there are some valid points in this guy's bit; Don Imus doesn't deserve defending because he's made a career out of being an asshole, and that's a risky proposition.

At the same time, until Sharpton and Jackson apologize to the Duke lacrosse team, they don't get my time of day either. Those who claim justification for targeted hatred because justification for it exists elsewhere are no better than those they claim victimize them.

Agree with most of it but one sentence seemed to be very racist by the writer.

"The problem was that white old redneck could not be as funny as a cultured Jew."


This sentence puts the author on par with Imus in my eyes. Am I reading it wrong?

Two things I find a problem with: the idea that Howard Stern is a-ok because he's a Jew (cultured? Well I guess everyone's got some kind of culture... that doesn't mean high-brow) and he has a black female co-host. Unfortunately, women are some of the biggest perpetrators of misogyny out there. And somehow misogyny seems acceptable. Market forces are not ridding our culture of misogyny, that's for sure.

Secondly, gangsta rap is not about "keepin' it real." (Btw, I don't think it should be censored -- I just don't put it on a pedestal, either). Driving cadillac escalades and wearing all that bling isn't real. What's real is trying to get by on working 2+ minimum wage jobs, being faced with nothing but fast food joints instead of healthy food in your neighborhood, waiting to get a welfare check.... I will concede that sex, drugs, and the desire for money and power are real -- but having wealth and power are not presented realistically, and furthermore, it's certainly just part of the picture, so it's a totally skewed representation. In poor communities, there are a lot more people acting within the scope of the law -- scraping to get by on what they can -- than criminals. Yet it is the criminals who are glamorized and publicized. Anyway....just my opinion.

Well, I think it depends on how you look at it. It's definitely not politcally correct. But as someone who is a cultured Jew (yes, and I'm an Italian raised in Appalachia; enigma is my middle name) I personally didn't see it as offensive. Now if I were a white old redneck, maybe I would. But let's face it, white old rednecks are only funny to other white old rednecks. It's the difference between the Hee Haw comics on the Blue Collar Comedy show, and comedians like Gilbert Gotfried, Richard Lewis, or Larry David, who's jokes speak to a larger consensus of audience members. Like Lenny Bruce used to make a point of illustrating, "Jewishness" is a state of being. You don't have to be Jewish to be Jewish. The term foots to a liberal, urban sophistication while the term redneck is nearly synonomous with ignorance and shopping at Wal-Mart. : )

I see what you're saying. I just don't think rap music being a positive or negative force should even be an issue. In days gone by, we used to say that metal was an evil influence because it endorsed devil worship, the objectification of women, and alcohol/drugs abuse. The rock star image did, and still does, promote those things, but does that mean all music should be watered down to suit more conservative tastes? Blaming the entertainment industry, whether it's music, movies, video games, or TV, is a moronic excuse that sidesteps the real causes for the problems in society. It's always been an easy out, and it always will be. It also seems to me that labeling all rap music as being mysogynist does a disservice to those artists out there who produce thoughtful, powerful work that doesn't cop to the popular rap star image. That's like condemning all rock musicians by the long haired, promiscuous, sleazy rock star image. What about the other artists outside of that?

Yeah, I agree with you there, and there are a lot of good role models in the black community (and other communities) that just don't get press. I don't buy the idea that racism (and especially sexism) is eliminated by the free market. It's still out there and still tolerated, and Janet Jackson's boob incident said more about our society being hippocritical than about our desire to create safe and clean television-viewing for our children.

I don't buy the idea that racism (and especially sexism) is eliminated by the free market.

Yeah, that is a little naive. However, there's a lot of truth to the fact that the entertainment industry has its own internal checks and balances system. When an entertainer - no matter how good he/she is at grabbing publicity - scares away sponsors, then that entertainer gets canned. Especially in radio where sponsors, for good or bad, dictate everything.

It's also annoying to see people jumping to the fore to quickly shout, "Black people are racist, too! Just look at what Snoop Dog and Jesse Jackson said!" What wonderful spokesmen for the entire black community. What about asking authors like Cornell West or Toni Morrison to share their opinion on the matter? Well, that wouldn't grab ratings, so, instead, let's talk to the morons. How insulting and stilted. It's like the white majority suddenly feels it's being criticized via Imus' firing, and has to troop out embarrassing celebs like Snoop and Jackson to even the score. That way we can say, "Hey, racism exists equally on both sides! Yay!" I'll believe that when the media does a better job of representing intelligent black commentators.

I'm not sure what is more depressing: what Imus said, or that there were people actually still listening to him to have heard it.

Should he have said what he said? Yes. Its his right. I don't care how awful a person is with their speech, they should be allowed to say it. And that right should be completely defended despite the vast array of apologies to Al Sharpton that may ensue. Its that freedom of speech that keeps people from bottling up things inside, thus making it easier for the rest of us to identify the assholes.

Awful people happen, Imus is one of them.
Thanks to Imus and the uproar that followed, there are now people pushing for the FCC to ban "hate speech" on the radio, tv, etc. I find that more repulsive(and frightening) than Imus' stupid comment.
There's no denying he had the right to say whatever he wanted to say. Just as the people who took offense had the right to be offended. The people who fired him had the right to fire him. I had the right to post about it. I don't quite see how this is a freedom of speech issue. No one took away his right to free speech. He pissed off the people who pay the people who pay him his 10M a year. He therefore had his job flushed down the toilet.

It just seems to me to be one more pointless distraction to pull our focus away from the things we should be focused on: Avian flu, the war, the proliferation of nuclear weapons, climatic aberrations . . . the list goes on and on. Right now we have a war that's bleeding out economy and destabilizing the Middle East day by day, like some terminal illness. A flu that world medical experts predict will eventually - and sooner than later - kill off about 2,000,000 Americans alone. That should be all we're talking about. Instead, it's debating whether or not rap music should be censored. Should Imus have lost his job? Blah, blah, blah.

Did I mention that I'm a downer lately? I'm a downer.

I agree with you 100%. Its unfortunate that a carnival is what the media has evolved into. I've got a friend who compiles stories for one of the local news channels. She confirms that lingering stories on likes of Imus appear strictly to take focus off the war in Iraq. I also find it appalling that more focus was placed on Anna Nichol's death and the father of her spawn then Kurt Vonnegut's passing. Very skewed balance on importance in this nation.

Its hard not to be a downer these days. Focus is always on tragedy. I just try to find some kind of middle ground and keep my eyes out for good things (they do happen). After all, its better to be depressed for a moment and admit it, then reorient yourself instead of becoming a bitter cynic.
My company is actually preparing for the Avian flu by training people to work at home in case of an emergency. For some reason, they think it is going to hit the US on the west coast around August and spread East. I have no idea where this information came to the big whigs in my company but they are taking it very seriously.

Jesus. Who do you work for, the C.I.A.? Nevermind, don't answer that.

Well, great. Now I'm even more freaked out. I thought I was being a downer, man, but you out-downed me. I just want to curl up with a pillow and watch cartoons.

Working at home is a plus.

Well it does have 3 letters and it does start with a C. Hopefully the universal flu vaccine will be rushed thru and readily available before it hits the US and more importantly, I hope that whatever info that they are acting on is dead wrong.

Since I have to take a contrary position with whatever other people say (otherwise I can't be cool and angst-ridden) you have forced me to disagree with myself. But since I really like myself, and I know that myself is from a tough background with a lot of demons to exorcise, I will take it easy on myself. Also, myself is just so damned cute. At-at . . . let's end the discussion on that note.

I had a lot more respect for Vonnegut than I did Anna Nicole, but to be honest, his death wasn't quite as shocking as hers. He was a fairly old man.

I'm not so adept at the reorienting of self. Like Vonnegut, I am a bitter cynic. And Pottymouth has me convinced that the Apocalypse is starting in August. I'm all freaked out now. I want ice cream.

and a stripper.

August you say? Hmm... I think I can make time for zombies by then. And about fucking time if you ask me.
Whoa, preparing people for the Avian flu by having them work at home? God forbid productivity goes down when people are dying! I hope that's because those employees are critical for emergency management...
Hmm. I seem to have infected everyone with my bitter cynicism and uninspired anger. The plan is working. (Insert maniacal laughter.)

That's some promising news. Unless it's all lies being used to placate us.

Damn birds.

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